I have been reloading It gives the same or better velocities than Hodgdon's H110 and Wichester's Win296 (which are the same powder and either would be my second choice with Herc 2400 coming in third) at about 2/3 the pressure. By FortuneCookie45LC. Your mileage may vary. They are all determined experimentally. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. (158gr and heavier) All will do a very good job so pick the one that's made by the company you like best, look up the proper charges and load up . can also shoot all .38 Special ammunition. All with good results. Contest void where prohibited by law. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. One of my favorite heavy bullets is the 200-gr. I use it in .38 Special, .357 Mag, 45 ACP and even light loads in .41 Mag. With Sierras 158 JSP, 15.5 grains of H4227 is right at 1,380 fps and groups three shots well under 1 at 45 yards. Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. All Rights Reserved, it doesnt show its potential unless you start handloading it. Vermont Fish & Wildlife Department, State Agency: Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. Load data is available for 9mm Luger, .38 Super Auto, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .40 S&W, .44 S&W Special, .44 Remington Magnum, .45 ACP and . I'll get there and with everyone's help here I think things will go fairly well. But for all that inherent diversity, Ive found theres a single cartridge that lets me cover most bases while keeping expense down and enjoyment up. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. It's awful hard to beat a powder like 296. Because of Titegroup's density, the ONLY place I will use it is in 380 and below cartridges. And the .45 Schofield cowboy loads recorded lower velocities than expected but delivered excellent accuracy. It may not display this or other websites correctly. At the VERY least, use a copper Gas Check lead bullet or a copper plated bullet. Alliant Powder Smokeless Powders. JavaScript is disabled. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. For reduced power loads in the .357 I've had great success with accuracy from Trail boss. Illinois Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: The armor piercing round was Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Throwingdown, May 26, 2009. Unique is a wonderful choice, but as Beagle333 stated I cannot find any. Get Guns.com offers and news!! The same thing happened 20 years later with the new .44 Magnum and the Winchester Model 1892, which had originally been chambered in .44-40. These bullets have a cannelure. can be cranked up a bit in velocity with jacketed bullets for a flatter trajectory in longer-distance shooting and hunting small . Firearms dont get much more iconic than John Moses Brownings legendary Auto-5 semi-auto shotgun, affectionately called the Humpback for its distinctive drop at the rear of the receiver. A stiff .357 load is plenty of punch for a relatively delicate animal like a whitetail. I too have used Alliant 2400, it makes an excellent full/hunting load. Deployed military should use stateside address. H110 and 296 require Magnum primers and like to be loaded at the upper end. I use 4.2 grs. personal loads where noted. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. Being used to SD of 12 for precision rifle I was taken back to see SD in the 50's for some of 357 Mag loads. Not bad for jacketed either, but wont launch em near as fast as 2400 or H110. I'm a little OCD when it comes to reloading and just have to try everything so I can see what the differences are. When customers ask us which powder is the best, the short answer is always "it depends!" . These two have always worked best for me. When Im researching guns and I find myself in that fevered moment where I must have a new treasure, my most common check against excess is a simple mental test: 1) Is it going to do anything my .357 Magnums wont do? Shooters have been arguing for nearly 85 years as to whether the .357 Magnum is suitable for use on deer. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Maryland Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: As others have said, Power Pistol. I'll be picking some up in 2 weeks. This year, H&R announced an expansion of its AR-15 lineup, bringing additional "retro" models to the market, including a 9 mm Luger-chambered Colt SMG clone, an M16A2-styled rifle and the carbine-size 723. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. For W296 is slow burning and needs a case full to ensure complete ignition. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Basic Reloaders Manual (1996) Speer Reloading Manual, #12 Winchester I use hodgdon HS6 and Lil gun for my .357 loads and lilgun for the .454 casull. Even though two bullets have the same weight, they may have considerably different bearing surfaces and other characteristics that alter their performance and chamber pressure characteristics. A comparatively fast burning powder with a burn rate about the same as Winchester 231 and Alliant Red Dot. 38 Special - +P 125 Grain SJHP - Remington HTP - 500 Rounds - Best Low Recoil 38 Special Ammo. Powders.). They felt is was a dirty powder and so all your cartridges would . I have been working up some loads for my 357's (686 6", 27 5", and 28 4") using Alliant Power Pro 300MP. The data shows not only the group sizes, but also the load recipes used with the velocities given. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Powder requirements for the plated bullets are supposed to be half way between lead and jacketed reloading data. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! 85. These are good full power hunting loads. Hornady XTP HP's is Accurate Arms #9 powder. I do like H110 in the .357 and .44 in both the revolvers and the carbines. I load this bullet over 13.0 grains of H110 and 12.0 grains of #2400. Bullseye, 100% burnt at 2.56 inches of barrel length. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. I tried 2205 in a 9 3/4" Ruger Super Red Hawk and there was lots of unburnt powder, it . Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM February 2023, P.O. ticket for many big game hunting applications and for defense in the Let me be the 1st to say that you can never go wrong with Unique. It is not the best for all things, but it will work in just about any pistol caliber! What powder is best for reloading 357 magnum hunting loads, using 180gr bullets? For the .357 mag I load hard cast bullets at full power (1,250 fps +/-) mostly using 2400 and AA#9. It is suitable only for full power magnum handgun loads and .30 Carbine loads. .357 Magnum factory Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. No purchase necessary. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. Contest void where prohibited by law. Federal Centerfire Primers. 2205 isn't the best choice in handgun length barrels, where it shines is rifle length barrels.I use 2205 in 44 mag hunting load and 22 hornet, Ap70n in 32, 38, 9mm, 357 and 44 mag target loads. Deployed military should use stateside address. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. The benefits of this are twofold. Pennsylvania Game Commission, State Agency: Get CFE . Full power .357 magnum loads out of a rifle can be fired all day with a satisfying thump and authoritative impact on reactive targets downrange. Ive never seen a 90-grain load in a store. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, Altor Pistols, P.O. Both the Browning B92 and the Rossi Model 92 were based on the Winchester 1892, while the Marlin used a modernized version of their original 1894 levergun. Fast Pistol Powder: Accurate #2 (My Favorite) Accurate #2 is an interesting powder in that it is one of the rare "low density" spherical powders. Unique is a good powder to start with. Historically .357 Mag. They shoot very accurately out of my Model 586. Now this rifle is ready for use by several generations of our family. From my perspective in this stage of my life if I could have only one centerfire rifle, it would be a .357 Magnum levergun, with my first choice being the Marlin 1894. Whenever You Try To Make Something IDIOT PROOFThey Will Just Make Better IDIOTS! I have been working up some loads for my 357's (686 6", 27 5", and 28 4") using Alliant Power Pro 300MP. If you have It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. 5.5 to 5.8 grains of Titegroup always worked well for me with pretty much any jacketed or plated 158 gr. I've been loading a 180gr. Hand loading required. and 8 lb. .38 Special +P loads make a slower burning powder, I suggest H-4227, LilGun, W-296,2400, HS6 or No. . No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Below, are three loaded rounds. We don't want you to blow yourself or your guns up either. Since I started doing this seriously, Ive only bought one gun, a .308 bolt-action rifle. For midrange loads I use Power Pistol, and for full magnum loads I use 2400. were measured in a 6" S&W revolver barrel using Speer cases and field (against large predators). with bullets weighing from 125-158 grains. My Speer manual says that Magnum Primers need to be used with w296 and h110 has anyone loaded these powders with standard primers and if so was there any difference? No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. It burns much cleaner than Bull's Eye and gives great accuracy. 3) Would it be more efficient to just buy components for my .357 handloading? No purchase necessary. JavaScript is disabled. When you want to go up to heavier loads in the mag cases try IMR4227 or 2400. This load in a 5-1/2 Ruger New Model Flat-Top clocks out at 1,333 fps. and Hodgdon HS-6 powders excellent for low and medium velocity loads Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency, State Agency: But have used Power Pistol in .357 Sig. However, it gains right at 400 fps from the 18-1/2 Marlin 1894 and puts three shots in 3/4 at 45 yards. I want something that best suits a newbie to reloading. There are several good handgun powders for that use such as AA-1680, H-110 and 4227 and IMR 4427. However, I've read Unique is hard to meter. Free shipping for many products! Jacketed bullets create a bit more wear on the bore, but its better than trying to wire brush out a bunch of lead build up. I have gotten the best results/grouping with all three using 18 grains of 300MP with Hornady 158 grain XTP's. A shooter using the .357 must limit himself to broad-side shots on deer. of muzzle energy. North Dakota Game & Fish Department, State Agency: Christian, Conservative American, Male, all three of which are currently under attack! Although a lot of factory ammo for the .357 is loaded light in deference to all those 80 year old guns out there, a full power .357 S&W Mag with those light 125 grain bullets (remember, the cartridge was made for 158 grain bullets at a published velocity of 1500 f.p.s. but only the gas check versions will normally work with the heavier loads. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? Newer magnum cartridges eventually surpassed it in power, but Deployed military should use stateside address. I agree with @Knob Creek on the clays though. Note: A full 45 Colt guns are popular for authenticitys sake, but .357 guns are more practical from a cost standpoint. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. It's also useful in somewhat reduced loads for the 357 and 44 magnum cartridges. (Photo: Andy C). 32 H&R Magnum. If you hunt in predominantly tight spaces with shorter sight lines, a .357 lever rifle is a wonderful gun to carry all day. Winchester 296/Hogdon H110 is a powder which cannot and must not be used for light metallic cartridge loads! I've considered H110, but didn't know if it would be a good "all around" powder. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. A series of targets John shot with the Marlin 1894, proving the accuracy Not only is this excellent accuracy, it is a significant increase in muzzle velocity. pressures may have been even higher; and if you shoot one of those . Great powder for the heaviest .357 Magnum, .41 Magnum and .44 Magnum loads. Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, State Agency: Read More Handloading Articles When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. The loads are not updated yearly. Missouri Deptartment of Conservation, State Agency: Actually, that propellant is "too fast" but a-ok for reduced power paper punching ammunition with good accuracy. the .357 Magnum since the middle 1960's. The .357 remains the best selling of all magnum handgun cartridges and among the top 10 best selling handgun cartridges. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I highly recommend using 2 different powders to achieve the best results or those 2 very different rounds. )(2009 Note: Some of these loads are from 1996 and in the passing years the powder companies have reduced their maximum loads particularly ones that have been around a long time like Unique. 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(IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM May 2023, P.O. MV is 1360 fps and the ME is 575 ft. lbs. a lightweight .357 or older gun, you may want to start with 13% less than Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. Upgrade efforts paused for now. of Bullseye alot as a . New. . be driven to a MV of 1005 fps by 8.8 grains of HS6 powder, or 1142 fps Discussion: Universal and Unique are good for lighter bullets, but if you want If you do use Titegroup, be aware that it is a particularly compact powder. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM April 2023, P.O. (Photo: Andy C). No you will not. All my .38/.357 guns love this load (S&W 642/Ruger Blackhawks/Ruger GP100/Marlin 1894 Cowboy). 28 gauge. I dont worry about the power factor much because CAS threshold is so low, its not worth the tiny savings in recoil against having to compensate for a two inch high point of impact. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. If that works for you, forge onward. Handloading also lets you utilize a vast library of .38 Special loads, one of the .357s biggest perks. Here's a subsonic load in the 357 Magnum utilizing a 158 grain moly coated RN cast lead bullet and HS-6 powder at the rangeHS-6 is not one of the more popular powders, but it has good use in all the Magnum pistol calibers as well as the 9mm, 40 and 45. Always used 2400 for that and my .44. small game loads. Maine Department of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: All of these bullets (below) can be used successfully in the .357 Magnum rifle These Speer velocities .357 Magnum hunting loadout. No purchase necessary. for the magnum pistol loads and for rifle. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. (Photo: Andy C). with unavoidable grey area. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. I just use a minimum charge of 15gr of 296 with 158gr coated lead bullets. I'm looking for the best powder to load .357. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. use hot loads). While these arent pleasant to shoot, getting mauled is worse. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for DILLION CARBIDE 45 LONG COLT 3 DIE SET #14405 NOS RELOADING at the best online prices at eBay! The versatility of loads for the .357 cartridge means that it excels as an all-purpose handgun round, suitable for just about every shooting activity imaginable: For recreational shooting, full-tilt .357 Magnum loads are pretty intense for extended sessions on both the hands and the wallet out of most revolvers. Surprisingly, or not so surprisingly depending upon your point of view, factory chambered leverguns for the .44 Magnum were offered more than 15 years before arriving in .357 Magnum. They show 2400 as the best powder to use for reloading the .357 Magnum cartridge. I have also used Unique with success on lighter loads, Bullseye, Red Dot and American Select didn't impress me for 357 but I didn't try too hard either. sufficiently flat for small game hunting. Unless one goes into abnormally dangerous areas or situations, many people, like me, are willing to sacrifice some power for day-to-day comfort. This is not John Waynes revolver it is a modern work of art! Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. John said in 1983, All in all, I wound up this research project considerably more impressed with the .357 Magnum as a rifle cartridge than I expected to be when I started out the little pistol round can deliver the goods in a rifle and more importantly, provide an awful lot of shooting fun per penny in the process. The reason my loads for the .357 Magnum levergun are the same as they are for the .357 Magnum sixgun is simply because the whole point is to be able to use the same load in both. JSP, .357 with JHP, .357 with JSP. Sounds like you used a standard primer. In the 1:16 16.25 barrels, we tested loads from subsonic .38 Special to a stout .357 Maximum and everything in between. Winchester #209 777 Primers - 100-Pack. With regards, 357Mag Teach them the truth, and let them sort thru the cobwebs of liberalism that have infested their minds. 6.1 gr. 7, #2230, and #2460 are products of Accurate Arms Company WMR, 760, 748, 231, 296 and 540 are products of Winchester, Components Div. Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. Result of not working out is a kaboom and potential injury. Find a book that lists loads for the bullet you will use. 357 Magnum (Cowboy Action) 38 Special (Cowboy Action) 38-40 Win. all magnum handgun cartridges and among the top 10 best selling handgun A Magnum primer will help get a complete burn with HP38/W231. (I) Giveaway ends December 31, 2022. Clays OR 5.0 gr. Deployed military should use stateside address. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. May not be the 'best' for all of them, but I've used it for .32 H&R Mag, 9mm, .38 Spl, .357 Mag, 45 ACP, and .45 Colt all with decent acceptable results. Any suggestions? Id like to make the case that everyone who loves shooting should have a place in their safe and on their shelves for a .357 Magnum firearm and ammunition. Of course, you can now get .357 Magnum power in the same package, but the recoil and muzzle blast are intimidating enough that many who own the mini magnums stoke the chambers with +P .38 loads. Like Jimbo said you'll do better with two powders than one. I had Milt Morrison slick up the action and take the trigger back to 3-1/2 lbs. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. It's a super accurate load in the Model 19s and the Model 27. Take it from a guy that chased for the holy grail of powder to do both well for over a yearjust buy two different powders. I purchased my first when they first came out and our family has added three more since then. SAFETY DATA SHEET. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. engine block. I love it because of how well it meters in my Dillon powder measure. No purchase necessary. But if you dont want to buy a new gun to try them out, you can get by with the .357 magnum. . No soup can is safe. This is a good load. I'm looking for a really strong suggestion for two different loads. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. ETA: Nevermind. For large game, the Hornady FTX projectiles reign supreme. The revolver has fallen out of favour in Bullseye but it still makes a great centrefire gun, and one of handgunnings most accurate loadsthe 148 grain hollow based wadcutter with Bullseye powdersaw most of its use here. . 2400, CFE Pistol, BE-86, Power Pistol, Sport Pistol. The powders that are considered "Magnum Powders" are: AA#9, Alliant 2400, W296/H110, both IMR & H4227, Ramshot Enforcer and VV N350. Box 502795, San Diego, CA 92150-1377. West Virginia Division of Natural Resources, State Agency: 38/. 357 Armour Piercing(no longer legal or available), 160 gr. Smith & Wesson Model 586: Reviewing A .357 Revolver With Class. of what some consider a forgotten Magnum! All right are Reserved Reload Ammo, Reloading The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), 1,075 (plated, actual in 7 bbl revolver), 1,307 max (Enforcer load below is SWC + GC ), ,108 (as of 2008 HP38 & W231 are the same), 1,610 MAX a Commercial JSP load averages 1,503 fps, 1,208 Hi=1244, Lo=1179, ES=65 (good load). . flatnose hard cast bullet. Its not exact practice, but it wont bankrupt you to shoot them weekly. - Take it easy, but take it! bullet. Arkansas Game & Fish Commission, State Agency: Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Dillon Precision 14400 38 Spl 357 Mag Pistol 3 Three Die Set Carbide Brand New at the best online prices at eBay! This high energy powder provides economy in loading. There is also the issue of lead vapor to breathe if on an indoor range. Winchester Smokeless Ball Powder. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. It has great guns in current production, with various styles (you can even get a .357 magnum 1911!) Theres no single cartridge that can do everything, especially not with affordability in mind. 5, No. Some people might think this is too little gun for a humane kill on a whitetail; this is misguided. It has been my favorite .357Mag load for 40+yr. VihtaVuori Oy Company, reloading booklet (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Then use whatever you can find cheap for 38 special right now. Most loads will work fine in a sixgun as long as they chamber in the cylinder, however the levergun can be pickier. However, load them in the Henry Big Boy and we pick up 375 fps and 250 fps respectively. I use 3.5 gr of Red Dot, and a 105 gr Lee SWC in .38 special cases for my Cowboy Action/Snub Nose Training/Plinking/New Shooter load. and H-110, W296 and Hercules 2400 powders excellent for maximum loads 231 is fine for a 38 load but not slow enough for a full house 357. .357 hunting loads can be tweaked to take deer sized game and smaller. For the 140 grain JHP the It is a good solid gun but I made a few personal changes. Hawaii Department of Land & Natural Resources, State Agency: Most likely I'll be loading lead bullets. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. This includes the majority of mainstream handgun rounds including the 9mm, 38 Special, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP. In the late 1970s, leverguns chambered in .357 Magnum began appearing. Ammo, Inc. Signature .38 Special - 125 Grain TMJ (Total Metal Jacket) Brass Cased Centerfire Pistol Ammunition - Best Stopping Power .38 Special Ammo. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Cartridges page. will drive those bullets to a MV of 1217 fps. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. However, it gains right at 400 fps from the 18-1/2 Marlin 1894 and puts three shots in 3/4 at 45 yards.
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